Wednesday, February 28, 2007

NOTES FROM FEBRUARY 28, 2007

Frame: a story within a story
Isocratic Irony: Descrepency between what is said and what is meant.
SYMPOSIUM:
-Speeches of Love, eros love
-Philia: Love, home of brotherly love is philidelphia.
-Sophia: Wisdom
-What do you get when you put phill on top of sophie=philosphy, or love of wisdon!
-Rhetoric is erotic

1st speaker: Phaedrus
2nd speaker: Pausanias (the lawyer)
the first thing to do is kill the lawyers!!
3rd speaker: Eryximachus
he wasn't supposed to be next, but Aristophanes got the hick-ups
4th speach: Aristophanes (english major, comic playwright)
5th speach: Agathon (tragic playwright)

Homoerotic- towards the males
but even worse....young boys and older men=pedafile
-the lover and the beloved= Erastes and the Eromenos
-why do they celebrate homosexuality??
-becasue women are inadequate
-men are more intellectually equal and more stimulating
-women get in the way, cause distractions and have children.
Asthetic- pleasing to the eye, beauty!

On the physical level--Socrates is the lover, and Alcibiades is the beloved.
On the spiritual level--Alcibiades is the lover, and Socrates is the beloved.

-Alcibiades turns into the lover becasue he explains love as discovering knowledge.
-Knowing carries an erotic charge: for example- "adam KNOWS his wife"

And as for the story we heard in class...all I can say is that I havent stopped thinking about that un-opened package since I heard the story...it's driving me absolutly CRAZY!!!

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